Good Hillary, Bad Hillary

On Thursday, Hillary Clinton said with apparent sincerity, "I am so honored to be on this stage with Barack Obama."  On Saturday, she nearly shouted, "shame on you, Barack Obama."

The obvious contradiction between these two statements is symptomatic of an ongoing tension in Clinton's candidacy for the nomination, and in my own personal response to Senator Clinton.

So what are we to make of Hillary's abrupt change of tone?  Below the fold I will offer three different possibilities, and discuss the implications of each.

The first explanation is that HRC was genuinely reacting, in the moment, to seeing the fliers for the first time.  According to FactCheck.org, these fliers have been circulating for two to three weeks.  Given this fact, it stretches credulity to think that she was unaware of these fliers until yesterday. This explanation does not fit the facts.

The second possible explanation is even less satisfying:  perhaps Hillary's vociferous reaction was a sign of some volatility or instability in her personality.  I reject this notion out of hand. Every indication is that HRC is an extremely solid person who bears up well under stress.  She is long on perseverance and planning.  Suggesting some personality-based explanation would not only be inconsistent with most of what is commonly known about Hillary's character, it would be easily labelled as a sexist explanation based in stereotypes about moodiness.  Again, I reject this explanation.  

The third obvious explanation, is that Hillary's response is primarily tactical. Her team must have concluded that this was the best way to "go negative" on Obama.  This appears to be a bit of attempted political jujitsu.  Hillary was taken hits for her aggressive, negative campaigning, so now she attempts to turn the tables and tarnish Obama's image and draw attention to her criticism of Obama's framing of these two issues.

My problem with this apparent tactic is that it only reinforces my own worst doubts about Senator Clinton.  I have no sense of who she really is: is she the warm and human Hillary of her close the other night, or is she the hard edged campaigner who has made increasingly frequent appearances as Senator Clinton's prospects have grown troubled and now desperate?

The bottom line for me is pretty simple Hillary's "manufactured outrage" only reminds me of her lack of authenticity, and her attempt to question Obama's tactics, when she has been the one who has used far more negative tactics, is hypocritical and reeks of desperation.



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Nice post (none / 0)

Very well thought out


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by oregonkcg on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 07:13:35 PM EST

Re: Sure.. Its her right.. (2.00 / 1)

Where is the lie?  

You are hardly a credible independent observer.  What about Clinton's fliers in NH distorting Obama's 100% pro-choice record?  What about the fliers in Nevada that wrongfully suggested that Obama was supporting a billion dollar tax increase when what he proposed was raising payroll taxes on the top 4% of taxpayers?  How about the Clinton adds in Wisconsin that falsely claimed that he was going to raise the age for SS?

You folks are either blinded by your enthusiasm, or you are raging hypocrites.  Which is it?


by upper left on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 07:22:16 PM EST

Re: Sure.. Its her right.. (none / 0)

You neglected a third possibility, they could be both.


by Shaun Appleby on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 09:32:18 PM EST
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Re: Good Hillary, Bad Hillary (2.00 / 2)


The whole Obama Campaign is hypocrisy. "I am above politics as usaul," Obama said. But then he turns around with the old political tactics. Who really is the hypocrite?
by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 07:23:28 PM EST

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What same old tactics?

You are making an assertion, but you are not backing it up with any evidence.


by upper left on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 07:35:30 PM EST
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Unfortunately, you haven't been reading the Diaries here lately.

Democrats for a Day

Commericals falsely saying that Hillary supported NAFTA

Harry and Louise like flyers stating lies about Hillary's health care plan

Manipulating the words of opponents like Obama did with his 4 page memo in South Carolina

At this point, it is, either you want to see the truth or you don't


by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 07:42:01 PM EST
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Re: Good Hillary, Bad Hillary (none / 0)

Unfortunately I have been reading far too many unsupported smears and attack diaries.

1) Obama is building the party by attracting millions of new voters and the HRC supporters twist that into Repubs supposedly financing his campaign and making a a significant impact in Dem primaries.  There is no credible evidence to support either claim.  Obama has a million Dem contributors.  McCain is broke do you really think Repubs have given Obama a significant share of the $150 million he has raised?  Do you think a few local repubs who tried to organize Dems for a day are outweighing the tidal wave of Democratic turn-out.  The assertions are implausible and the only grounds for believing them is your own preconceived biases.

2) Hillary has made numerous statements in support of NAFTA including in her own autobiography.

3) "Mandate" means "requirement." A mandate without an enforcement mechanism is not a mandate.  Where is the lie?

4) HRC ans BC made statements that offended neutral AA leaders like Brazile and Clyburn who expressed their concerns.  Most independent analysts agree that the Clintons were trying to "ghettoize" Obama and turn him into the "black" candidate.

Who is failing to see the truth?

Hillary is bullshitting her own supporters into believing that Obama is the one who is guilty of the very tactics she has been using for months.  This is Orwellian.

Do you really believe that Obama has used more negative campaign tactics than Clinton?  If so I think you are blind.


by upper left on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 08:05:35 PM EST
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Re: Good Hillary, Bad Hillary (none / 0)

Attacting new voters? You still haven't heard. The only "new" voters he is bringing are the Democrats for a Day. Those new voters vote for him only on the day of the primaries/caucuses. Obama even encourages them to return to their party after their done. So I don't want to hear that he's bringing in new supporters any longer.

Obama is guilty of a lot of things. The problem is not that he uses the tactics. It is how he claims to be above politics as usual and yet uses the same tactics. At the debate in Texas, Obama said that the plagiarism charges were part of a "silly" season. Yet, after Hillary gave her closing comment he sent out more plagiarism charges. So your argument doesn't stand.


by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 09:56:38 PM EST
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Dem turnout is up by over 100% from 2004.  That is an increase of 10 million.  Do you really think it is credible to suggest that a substantial number of those ten million are Repubs who are voting for tactical reasons?  There is no evidence to support your claim and the math just doesn't add up.  Obama is pulling millions of indies and a few disaffected Repubs but there is no large organized effort for Repubs to support Obama.  

Almost all Repubs understand what you do not.  Obama will be a much stronger candidate in the fall.  Rush even joked that he would donate money to Clinton to try to keep her campaign alive. Pay attention to what is happening, don't allow yourself to be blinded by your enthusiasm for your candidate.


by upper left on Mon Feb 25, 2008 at 01:19:08 PM EST
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There have been stories about a fight going on within her campaign about how to make a final push against Obama.

I suspect that by the time the debate rolled around, the decision hadn't really been made, and therefore, Hillary stayed mostly polite and civil.

By Saturday, they had made the decision to take this new, more aggressive approach.


by animated on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 07:26:32 PM EST

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The point is that it is all tacics with the Clinton's.  Say whatever you think you need to say to improve your tactical position.  

Obama has stuck to the same slogan and the same themes since the campaign started.  HRC has changed tacks so often that it looks like she is suffering from bi-polar disease.  I am not saying she does, but it just accents the lack of authenticity.


by upper left on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 07:38:58 PM EST

Sybillary (none / 0)

It's a public manifestation of the crisis within her own campaign demonstarting the two factions that have developed.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 08:18:29 PM EST

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Surely it's a strategy thing. The stunning part is how ineptly she implements strategy changes.  Over the last two days she has come across like some state house level wingnut who doesn't know when to shut up. Amazing.


by PositiveFreedom on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 08:45:25 PM EST

It's not strategic (none / 0)

It's tactical.

The strategy was to win on February 5 by going all in on a few big states. That strategy failed and they are left with only tactical moves.

Obama's strategy was to organize a ground game in all states, targeting specific districts in larger Super Tuesday states to minimize the delegate gains Hillary made there. The strategy went on from Super Tuesday putting resoures in every contest after Super Tuesday. Tactically, they have been implenting that strategy with near flawless perfection.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 09:39:55 PM EST
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